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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞) ]9 t6 v& c7 t4 ~

: U+ v5 V2 e, \5 F( w1 a9 X; sBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane$ y$ ?& E" W! k, w) N3 h* n3 {
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
8 X/ M4 ~5 ~2 o# m) j0 q& ~(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
* `  b; `6 ~/ \4 V% h9 l# V葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:$ _8 E8 d7 g2 K
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
8 T6 u! Q5 G; V# T/ k4 V9 r& y她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:# p3 W9 i" ?3 F, e1 p
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
3 @2 D6 p2 b4 A9 j# N, v4 YShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
2 J( n% M  `7 Z4 b6 G+ Xbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,* b6 u! \5 S* P5 c9 R) p0 U
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.$ }3 H# S/ p5 n  q, p1 V
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
! J# P7 U! M) Y" T' N7 n7 Z% b! i5 UHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection0 C- {1 f( t1 g3 N3 N1 M; _
if we demand He leave us alone?"
  P) _  z, U7 D  D6 J6 Y6 ?『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
5 L0 a( t$ t, a; V, R. H只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
4 C4 j7 W+ b# H! r$ n8 E8 i1 q不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
  d* U; h: N$ `" X# Y* J上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。. Y0 l2 q3 S' F% I
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,7 \  l& f1 P+ D
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』& R3 ^) s) A) o/ B- C, @  {% }
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.) x+ w' N, \7 ~, F' B9 s: |
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
3 X& M; g: d' z1 J! mher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our6 o  A' s$ f/ K7 }& u% G5 C2 u, |
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
6 q: ]7 L0 ?; A8 ^; J. `( K  W1 Vschool...5 S0 L4 V0 o0 [6 B5 Y/ e/ k
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
+ f! y3 t3 |3 u  \and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK., t" I0 g& u! v! s
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,/ q4 [* M* {7 y; @; ^6 M6 K! Q( P
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
6 ]6 w" a- d4 L6 o. v$ O! [(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,0 F& a4 j; k1 ^' q( z3 M9 ~
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、/ H# X/ [. P! \1 s
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。$ d; F% M. j, L  }/ r

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
# A) O# }. }" ~% Gwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped5 ?3 `9 }9 l7 c; m/ G
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed% _+ b1 ?) l* H. n7 M" M  e# ]
suicide)' C2 g. s9 V& j5 O
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
: J1 @; J& o# D$ r, T& e" |然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
) F8 i( f( f1 D: y; i我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,) D# R" x. R, ]+ t* p3 D1 b; L! @9 s
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊! |& ]+ S. I4 O/ j/ c
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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* X5 ^  z; K- [$ L0 V0 W9 fThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our/ f9 z; C3 B, \* L) F1 J
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member3 h0 ]; f# J. C, F) o3 p
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
' ^$ _4 e: G6 t- `" b, Bbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
' q& u% g( I0 p! o& _6 x( O( land we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
  c: D' Y% n7 h, t2 a7 F& ~between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
0 z- T7 x0 L! r) T# ietc.). And we said OK.
3 {. U: l# x0 L3 H4 `然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,. Y$ y5 g3 g+ d
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
1 e% H5 f: B( y, d5 ]# P# D教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
. F+ C: V4 r/ V' L, ~- c4 s更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
' d1 ~# H4 f. i/ m而大家同意了。. i9 s' m9 h0 @' A

: }1 }2 W6 w& l" C' XThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,7 v+ D  v0 u7 J; b* [2 a
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
5 D6 I$ R) l& |4 ZThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys* W+ K0 J0 d6 R9 q
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
, ^8 C. l& x, ~they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
3 j+ N: C4 O8 ?! {and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
# M  [$ w! x( K/ l- r+ N9 [said OK.
: U5 W. T' n; T' ?" {: O0 M然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
6 b, M7 f9 ~; G甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。4 w# h% ]8 E, ?% B; G+ l$ X. ?
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
' u) v- H; D: \8 W他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
) U1 {. s, Y6 {" r$ G' P; _- r7 U1 `好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道% ]8 b) \; b; T* e5 R
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。* d1 I+ s0 {9 h$ w' B
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- w; z# {2 M4 P; h; k$ Q; YThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
+ Q) |2 P: J% E6 Fwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
& F# z  d9 Q, x7 E$ F0 ^we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,& W$ h& P+ t" v0 n
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.: b1 f# x) v2 O
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,# b2 }3 N3 X) T- |1 L8 i
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
- G5 p7 r$ k' R  o8 x任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >- J: L- j  ^, U$ j8 y6 K. N) y
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。+ d6 N0 m  Z5 w0 j# w

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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
2 b/ a5 o. b/ L9 I7 Dand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty% s7 b& O- s. u3 B
of the female body. And we said OK.$ O2 U; Z, T5 Z2 W
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,7 v7 ^( _$ g. ?# W( v6 V
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。, b0 H: H; Z. ]3 D- S2 u

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. q6 d, c! O" b4 F) a% PAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
8 I+ N8 I7 ]8 }0 Rpublished pictures of nude children and then further again' \( x3 J. C( d
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
5 ^! m& x* k/ I1 }- k9 pthey're entitled to free speech.
# ~' y; e& I( K: x- t然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,, G* _3 g: _2 h
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,5 a# Y* F  v* z0 @; W
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies5 K/ M) Q1 m: i. Z  a# C1 U
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music1 @3 T' Y& J+ x" w
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.) Y# h* V- w! w4 p5 i$ O% `: w
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,( G  ?$ g# \3 b9 \: T, ~  b3 b7 O
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.' |, }. K4 I% j- T
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
0 p. r. \5 m: S# f# o不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
, i  H& f# w' }8 U5 K1 K# {9 A謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:9 [+ x5 N  r. G
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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5 ?0 ?5 @) S% i0 l6 U: INow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,0 C. [0 I# P5 g
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
& @2 d+ J* f$ W: U+ i7 p! }% Xto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
& W! @2 c/ s+ Cif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.3 x) s5 |( b: Z( ~$ s2 [) h
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."1 D! r7 D8 y: E% j/ b& @
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?" V/ k  N# t& j7 \
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
8 |( Y. q0 J  ^& C: z為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?0 j( x6 }5 G) Q+ g, r
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。9 C+ N$ F! o+ G7 s0 X
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。4 v( q" H! V2 o$ j

9 U% w  d8 Y' H4 \7 cFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
4 B1 h- F5 v: e! |& j! kwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
& o. k. z4 l2 C9 L0 nsay, but question what the Bible says.
! {! r9 O7 P( a實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。6 C& {2 e6 R1 x' ?$ m
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like9 A: u8 z$ `( U0 r  _( S0 Q
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
% {$ u6 ~& H& Y5 jpeople think twice about sharing.
, @( s( |' u  r/ i# }實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
% ?0 u1 d. u6 a但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
! B* }( Y2 s- |2 O$ A( Q人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。3 X( Q' N; M$ ]; ^
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3 G& V% }8 I: _Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely% X4 b4 t  K" f) z) {2 U9 R9 b( ~
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed0 m" d6 G+ K4 P6 g  g' ~
in the school and workplace.- Q, I  }5 O8 O# |* d, |. J
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
7 U7 f3 }3 B) S透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
# H1 q: F' E) }1 @, D而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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1 L7 a& Q+ @1 r  K, qAre you laughing?; w# `' z8 _7 M: x$ \3 b
你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it( h& I: O  v. B# V4 a7 \. {
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,, k8 n. O  l! r* b
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.( E) O  f5 K+ s" c8 F1 t1 i
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
! Q3 z/ a: R# O6 M% L3 kthan what God thinks of us.
) z- ~2 M( C4 \6 f# A好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
1 q% h, R3 }# N; l# _% A$ g3 g因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,# j6 m. Q- ]! v  `4 q
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
' [  r: P. x# ^* z. _, D1 D" A可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,: [' i1 ^6 ^" ^
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
& ^$ |' u5 X& ono one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't# }+ B% C- ]1 R) f9 @0 h' m& H
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
+ z" [) j( O7 W& Q! C把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
; \  k9 a2 e3 A( Q4 m7 v, ~若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,4 R  T- y9 D' H# M3 i) F
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
& l- }3 f% q7 Q1 [: M你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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5 X1 }- Y  T  j- F上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
( |: }* n+ M# j3 c5 s  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
& o7 q* \: P+ c: D& q) H8 k4 [有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。. ?7 o7 q  l6 w% n9 n+ i( u1 E! ^
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了* O2 A5 S2 q" O: |( i7 |

, J% a% N+ k; E/ I0 B7 ?所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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0 `3 k4 @: A! _( n- g* N0 Q0 @社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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