說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
! H. Q1 y6 n. T/ G- f) F0 [' f0 H学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
4 ~8 U+ d8 {* u楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
8 v/ @7 h7 f% k楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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2 e% N8 \& B/ G看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE / ~4 }! x1 J7 X	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE3 b0 B- q# y+ u3 L6 s% Z, J6 N
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport # w( m( n& v/ ?1 }	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE ; w9 M4 L7 B% w1 Q" o, u
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE+ j2 Z; @4 i* N8 \|' _7 W	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX ' d) C3 N; k% M( o W% X
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5- W; h% y0 D" U% o: m	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5* h3 R- }1 d7 g3 u
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE- t, j( z. i5 J, F	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE: E. {+ M+ `! K5 R6 D
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE ( h0 Z' X" B+ M4 J: V% D, o: p	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX9 } q' o+ [# _+ a& T, u- F
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid W# M/ Y+ W/ `5 K; N1 l	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 9 m# l: ]) @$ g J; J* Q% ?$ F$ ?
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 n _9 ~& s! \' a	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 k4 s) d6 D2 } t( Q1 I7 E/ v
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE 0 C w- O1 [* c+ W) s	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE ' @. z- i: Y' Q6 ^9 M
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE. p! l. ~# j- F8 C4 y! \|" Q. I	• 1996 Toyota T-100 % v* P7 ^0 x! F; ^/ d3 I* c) W( u
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE. j) `( y7 y. }( K' b. F5 A( t	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST 0 L0 q/ k' n; m5 B$ w+ a
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited ( w/ J5 ^) C4 ^	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited0 q$ L) M; z6 i, i
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 t p K- \$ q: m	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX5 x" s4 i7 B. c, x9 J* h* Z
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE' K0 ~2 @+ D9 `. w0 N [! E	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5- \|% R8 T N( K% D0 A2 l r
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1996 Toyota Tercel $ r, h( \' {9 J+ G6 ~1 N
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ) p; V0 r. l) V: m	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX# n q" B5 ~% u- p
• 2006 Toyota Tundra - O; o% _0 H& M2 n9 \+ O' L& [	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT4 [: Y. T5 O, r% c+ v S. D" e/ V) h
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS3 S# z. B5 ]' p" E2 J	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma s3 c1 G3 u1 O1 b
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 5 F# G, r7 {2 D: ?/ g8 U3 Q. H	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner ' I0 {1 [1 A3 ]" S# [; u
• 2006 Toyota Prius 0 y$ V4 `8 w- A! q/ r	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX' ~8 x' c1 O9 R3 t! o
• 2006 Toyota Camry " R! a, H; ^; p4 O( i4 Z* `+ m	• 1995 Toyota Pickup * }, A @0 R( J# k R% F. v
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring M( X+ b, B$ w8 g. v* ^	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE8 S+ d$ u$ Q5 H5 i& g3 d# O
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 2 R2 ?. O+ V3 P) B$ m	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 1 O- l; {. ]) ~; ?) g% u# K
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 5 ]9 b9 P8 C+ B+ {$ a0 C6 E	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton3 Y: V0 o7 g( e1 g7 G1 q+ k( K
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited - U5 C5 n" _: O! L9 J! a7 W, c$ V	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR57 i% R; C. g- {
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner' g# w% t3 ?/ A	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5& i+ \|! v7 j( U6 H& K
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( ^- F. M9 X2 _2 @6 W7 i	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX& S0 S* C) s! E8 J; t) b
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S ( N* v1 S# A9 J. \" U$ \|	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX {9 a$ l! V+ U# c+ _2 E7 j- B
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited: B( ^: Y/ _0 X' s" Z0 ]4 m	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 E) H, u5 i6 q: B0 p
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 3 F" O& i- t1 }/ T# I+ @9 R( {	• 1995 Toyota Tercel . \|& v0 Y' l5 t: R! E; y; P9 ~
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS' H- @6 ?) R9 u+ I0 ]	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 9 \|* f v7 f* n" q# S
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ S/ D0 m. p2 j# v2 P	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX $ e: [. E' {' t6 E' V/ l
• 2005 Toyota Tundra % R( B0 O$ s; ]	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE4 t/ I) g/ \9 }, I6 f2 u3 R+ r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS4 b; R0 O$ w8 O* c, q. c+ @) M	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 0 E2 K c- ]6 a9 z3 r! w/ F
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR58 b" P( y7 A8 H8 m	• 1995 Toyota T-100 # e7 K& v1 U6 L# h
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited9 T3 c: X5 H+ L8 n; Y	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma ) Y9 N8 j( J( D: c5 F$ D( s1 d% L
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL0 E. N; G9 v, p" V: b0 ]* L	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE4 H7 n2 n4 x* E
• 2005 Toyota Camry ) j+ ^# P* Z3 a7 z0 S' S) `	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 5 e+ i' S2 b+ K4 V
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring, n& e/ G- N' T# D: t	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX & {& I8 R( b$ W( `. ?
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE & q' r" \|, j* V4 G$ O* W7 S4 \|	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX * y! a3 T8 S2 q& i, L3 `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 5 r; T5 y2 @( Y: Y2 k( b2 S0 P	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 2 e/ ?! u8 N1 p
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited % m' j; `2 J, j* f- C3 \|6 j, j	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 - w4 t V/ h* e3 z
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma " Q, m( e8 U& H3 w; O	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ! f3 d' r9 l# L! { c
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S 8 e5 w: i, \|: I	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE& x8 H/ N$ k/ ]
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE V: y& h5 i$ l( V0 d L	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE6 j- p M& z0 R5 @0 a
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 : R6 G% A6 ~) z6 `/ ~
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 ! K: r8 W& u, [. S$ L) p" [	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 " h1 \|: G( ]$ Z8 p8 A! B8 x
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 0 g8 N1 C" n6 M! D K! ~9 A	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE5 j" b% z, E8 P1 v& P' }; J
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 6 s* o' h1 v- c/ `2 z	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX 9 L" \|* g6 l1 c& \|4 r6 V) r' Q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS& V* _2 x% n3 R) P	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR56 _: t4 {/ d9 c. [# V
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 6 Y S4 W5 m( U) d6 y	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 7 j! ]+ ~' U. x1 c9 @% j
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE, ?/ q% M! ^9 \|0 ^5 M7 [) u* B	• 1994 Toyota Corolla . i; P# W( ^0 q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited / x/ W7 l1 W \	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton2 d: O) R. x/ ~, ]2 f
• 2005 Toyota Highlander / x b: r9 m6 \|	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE % v" `+ ?7 X3 Y+ W$ Y$ t) M9 _
• 2005 Toyota Prius 2 E0 h% N, V2 k$ ?5 ?, I* h2 w$ H	• 1993 Toyota Corolla * X8 l$ ]: n3 n
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE9 t5 g. H$ W- {	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton $ M) v6 @: j/ M2 ]: m' ^- F6 O
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE . Y/ V; }2 \|% I3 q- \|9 t	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' }$ j% t) N' u8 v1 Q
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited" o6 _! h& ^) T6 ]$ C	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX3 Y& z$ p5 I4 s% i
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 k/ I3 f6 d7 o% j) V7 z- c0 m	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX 2 N$ v6 }5 U' h
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ' f; v( R" d" B7 b; y	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX & Y2 Q9 A* ?+ F
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE& }5 C/ \* C& L	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 i% \' W# C) \* g2 S% i0 r
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE8 l, k* B7 M* X5 B7 \|	• 1993 Toyota T-100 - I4 I) f- w( Z0 _. i0 m, V
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE % Z! O: ~, m: o; J) l7 {5 A& v
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited: f' J& @" t! K	• 1993 Toyota Pickup # Z3 \; D& B! q) \|- h! b% D
• 2004 Toyota Prius $ ]" r2 j% `/ Q1 U9 l' K	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE - N! V5 _( ^: m, w2 h
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ( O' G+ [7 v; O, j7 @	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE & C- q' o* _2 \" ^2 t9 j7 I
• 2004 Toyota Tundra % ?. k- g8 O7 {3 O8 b6 ]3 ?	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 } }. F; ~6 ?* }$ ]6 M/ V
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE - M" I' x P9 i w: j	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5* h. i/ X& h# @% u
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited : ^/ \ N9 a& L	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 9 o$ D) A7 z0 c" P% T& z
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited! i9 `% P4 h" L2 I) d	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE( Q8 \ c' ]# ?) o5 U( H, h* k3 y
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE " h/ X9 ?1 D& M$ V	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 6 {# G+ R; H: W @7 P$ F5 a8 }
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE ; n# P7 M0 u( [( W& D6 s7 L	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE 2 J$ n2 i4 {% i4 r# Q! R
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 8 l) f' y/ k7 O$ U: E& l1 \	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac # q9 r% W+ i0 Z
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited: d5 h( d( z/ y4 p) T W) t	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ! C# d2 X/ U( i+ l4 V7 c
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 1 L/ v1 w2 r7 G. L) i	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 6 P! W6 \$ x* @, F) `+ B$ j" w6 n
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + \|$ N* c6 u- r% S$ j3 F3 y, R	• 1992 Toyota Corolla . E0 z# R3 N3 \|
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 8 J# J1 ?. D- d! L; U0 z; N; U3 L	• 1992 Toyota MR2 a; H6 h9 \$ [2 J
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner1 s# H, p4 e1 h; ~8 e	• 1992 Toyota Pickup # o6 O3 T% j# M4 X
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR58 _4 U2 m7 Y h	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX - c+ ~5 q* r$ ^6 u6 R0 ]0 V& i- @7 x
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 6 e; ?+ k+ w) {	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac! d1 B" O2 z8 D) i1 b4 o
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner5 ?; g. R1 M# Z! Q6 a! s	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 E3 Y* I; ]( H1 a; E8 _
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S " \|$ ^ q o Q' W/ g	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX5 T; h! E$ l4 b" v# }' {2 }/ k
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited& K4 J5 I4 \|2 u- H! I9 R/ o	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5& R' ^/ K H/ i' ?# ]9 L9 L2 K3 K
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner $ \* \: v1 n- V+ M1 \8 W4 T- @, i	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser z# {' \|0 k z! H( H9 t
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR55 G8 o2 G$ b9 S; T: P; A	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof' p% v7 h) \|1 w5 V2 m) _& P& b+ v
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited% ~* }0 F, {" _/ X/ N( r	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 1 ^, v/ I" \|5 N3 f- R: u
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE # Q c! W& B1 o- }* G1 t1 a	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - @* y5 s/ C6 `
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT9 P2 @% f) F7 B. ^. o% T4 k) j	• 1991 Toyota Camry 7 X- X0 i/ h) t
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE / ?0 r4 a. U5 h+ R6 \|9 b E+ }, N	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser " G8 i( Y" R! ]& g5 k; R
• 2003 Toyota Highlander $ g& d) P/ ^; T" N, P7 A, c	• 1991 Toyota Pickup & w/ `. j0 k/ y; U+ Z4 V4 B; _4 R+ ]
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma & {0 H5 h. H1 ]( K	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX : K4 W) s6 }) e
• 2003 Toyota Tundra , x8 o ?. j* O h6 \|1 c$ ^% \|	• 1991 Toyota MR2 6 \|# ?; M% L* N) V$ H/ D
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE! ^' {) w9 I P/ w	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 ' q* j' Q" Z& d: @8 o2 \+ {; @9 t
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited5 `4 {) V" _& ^% m	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 4 Y" I$ u4 N$ {( }
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # O% p5 }7 M: N
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR53 B! J3 F& ?% K2 c	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac + Y) y, h' C4 L1 y9 t" i7 c/ K
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE7 E3 S7 {( ]9 M$ ]1 K" K0 T; O: ?( b+ \% `	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof# J( V6 G, G# P. \|3 h
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE a1 V) u; o- e4 \|& l	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX" W; l1 c5 S# I# E S
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited , a `/ a/ x7 d; e( e; d	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE" u( r: A8 S2 `6 b: i1 J. D9 J
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited & V O$ \|* q6 Q6 ^. b	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton2 y; z6 w2 E) G* [; C0 d1 t) w
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 0 E: c1 ~6 O* X1 H4 E	• 1990 Toyota Pickup * n; W* }% h. M. \|9 F
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ! ?( C7 U* n1 {. Y" s! {	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE, G! ^9 n9 O6 Y3 `: f0 u0 J
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE ) o2 ^' p5 [ m% C# g0 ?/ C	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 : k' g1 o& O: o: E
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4 ]7 X) v* S' b. N	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ! d- c8 Y$ N/ N/ {/ `( @
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE ]7 Q/ b8 @" P) M* ~	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT6 h1 s. P1 a- X( q9 I& r0 K
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT( e2 G8 [7 h- S. r	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base, }3 F( e# d& Q9 {3 Q% ]- L
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner7 E6 J1 v `4 {7 [	• 1990 Toyota Camry 4 I; x2 \1 b0 Z2 o
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S4 v5 R$ o q* m	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST) s( H: ~- K" ]5 {
• 2002 Toyota Highlander & l" w6 O4 y# p- _4 t	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX" }# Q: w; i! C: F; Y" \' u% `6 ^7 {
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; L# r: m0 Z7 n4 A/ t# r0 f7 U5 x9 e	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX" v- d" _# W% j$ S( t
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5: ~3 A" T( \|- ~	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5& f" g( N) n, ^2 \| P1 \|$ h- c
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + y+ g' f2 ?8 V, c	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS# O; \* S0 F( c: D5 V& x! ^' t
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 2 v- i5 j t# S1 C	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser , k& b3 a- E2 F
• 2002 Toyota Prius ; r; a" E; a2 B9 Z' N	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton : E6 v/ K9 I6 B) R
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 9 e) B( b5 h% I" {7 R: G	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX+ Z, P3 a0 m' q2 V7 R* }
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS* k) Y# ?# G9 }0 P5 [& k	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac2 {+ k5 i2 F, Q0 ?: M5 L, N3 M
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE4 Q$ ^7 R% @( G	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac8 t* V5 K: G* Y, Q% z9 z, t
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 2 H! [) U- {, B$ z2 r	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 1 a h8 A$ i% V! a' v- i
• 2002 Toyota Tundra % i2 T6 ?, V7 v5 }8 J	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ( ?) p2 a2 }$ M$ n
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ( l3 B* s5 v& G% K	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ; ]! Q! ]. v8 `2 a+ P% _" v: z
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 0 r/ k) K8 q6 J3 ~	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger5 O1 ?2 o2 ]( x+ B
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL - u0 R8 k1 T. q2 c& w0 r	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base& l/ h% @5 P# m9 s* R2 e B
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited D2 e' Y( S* ^- U' m5 Y) [2 C' r	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % U* B; t6 p0 y$ V# }
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT ( Q# A6 p, m0 O. }	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser f$ X p$ f2 {1 C9 j
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE5 I9 b6 t( n/ f/ d	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE 5 F& L$ u+ N7 r. Z9 ^8 E Y
• 2001 Toyota Prius 1 Z# k6 E5 I) g7 ^% d: ]7 g	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX8 s8 E- p2 } C; j( r! T
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma ( r) Y0 E/ ~/ G' T	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton; Y8 a- ~3 E: R0 Z) g
• 2001 Toyota Tundra : d" L" z6 C& j* {8 S2 h! n	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger$ p3 z1 f" L$ i! q
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE ' s/ ^4 E7 H4 a9 J- p, k- _	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX4 u- I. L( v0 j
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited" d' S" F( P4 V	• 1989 Toyota Camry 0 O, G* R/ F! [; e& r+ l
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5% `2 O! {, w! k% g/ F9 x	• 1989 Toyota Tercel % r( l- _; v2 b7 O( h$ a! j/ p/ y
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 9 F5 Q! L: b/ b) o- L	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX3 Q5 n3 K! e# _- T
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE ) K0 H: c8 Y9 e/ X2 F- S	• 1989 Toyota Pickup ( y1 F2 d r: Q# Z7 D0 V) g
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 3 Q0 h& W% U9 `# H& t5 s	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 # G) y3 ~# h5 P% E" e
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 q6 W6 A, t# G8 ?	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger # @/ T$ F8 F- U$ }1 R+ P- s: \
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE , Q4 I% u/ L+ z+ W5 K: a! a	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ 6 A' @3 c2 J [0 {% a! p9 @
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 $ `: Y( V4 j$ a! V m; C	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel1 a- d' ?+ A; t$ W* E
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner & k+ q3 s" L$ z/ J/ Y" X	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX* G9 V; \3 ]0 _) c9 `
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS a( p6 B- I2 p) e	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ * s/ s! @2 a' T$ _& p, S2 I- ~
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 8 {& ~- [6 R/ d7 L7 g3 W	• 1988 Toyota Camry Q6 r( b. f2 g- U( ]; ^+ ]3 T
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + l) @; ~* C. j& ^% Z0 [& j; F0 P	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 5 q/ y3 K' v: G* N
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 . k. F d. Q, \, `) ^" \|# Y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger$ Y% D0 y8 t, d7 a8 W/ F. O
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE2 g! H5 l( R& ^' Y+ `* B	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX" h8 B2 P7 u% E- u
• 2001 Toyota Highlander ; @( m( [' I1 m B) ~% Q	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 L1 G; Z6 I, t+ I9 R5 l2 d# x
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited ! ]. t5 a# O, l6 Z: g9 b: Y) I	• 1988 Toyota Van DX ! f$ w& `9 ^. S; ]9 n; S$ w1 n
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ' {1 H$ B; e9 ^ @) J. K1 [	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger [* T# o2 i0 f" a I. x
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma z/ y3 y, z9 D	• 1988 Toyota Tercel - }- E$ N2 N$ z& x
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT ! M; h3 Y D! r8 b+ U	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE2 R7 F; w ?3 d0 J
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE* n0 C: Y+ B/ I; Z) c* n7 Q/ t	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window 5 q) ~1 O( ]7 H8 }+ X* b
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 8 B- C, c; S; @+ J0 G5 [' C	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton * ? H6 r/ a6 S* q; N
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; {" P: l6 s/ _2 {' Y* r" k; P	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ' \| X0 w: c) I3 ^' d; O. j! }
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 * s, y* a- V" }6 N! I	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 a9 o3 ]6 D2 b0 D# m8 u
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited/ Y8 F, X* O0 j' X6 L# e4 D	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger . A& o* @6 R* P( ?: r3 }/ V
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 3 `' D. `, v* l' n A	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B8 ?* f* r$ t' y. `, O' [0 H1 v
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS+ @# f4 a* ~; r3 L5 J	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 4 {7 B8 M! {3 \' a
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE3 `9 i: \|$ M+ ~% T) [: J6 p+ S: q	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger - W% Q+ w- h1 U( e( \
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 2 M" u! p# ^ z	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5# c9 m% S6 i- e% I, `& X/ Z2 D
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited6 m9 B) r* c/ O2 q" m( j& g	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX, j# }- ~, H- u7 Y6 e; u0 H. b
• 2000 Toyota Tundra / l7 r; u- c* `9 L% O$ N	• 1988 Toyota Van LE' C) r0 b7 l/ V* \|+ P! H- @2 k+ C2 P
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS $ C! Y# m% s7 w" M	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ) H& b, o3 l* W- {% A7 J* O' Z
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE & L5 H! N' M- C	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 - l. h- G: g% F& p, A t8 O
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited; N# }# M3 O: A	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE , d, D9 N9 }( u7 R* _5 K
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner ! r: Y. s5 ?% p7 D# j	• 1987 Toyota Van DX ; G$ }: i) P/ m9 {( S! f
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE& M% ~: e" c& ~, `4 V7 r+ z	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window% K. J4 G; G( F, H" h- N
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ q! ?& \1 C" o& P	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton . l4 \% }9 D# [) `6 O
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE- ^$ J3 T; C; [' o	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 `9 c% q& q+ b. P- w1 z
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL- H" b& j: Y3 ?	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX9 i: d0 `! F- U- e0 S0 S7 ~- F
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner : \# \, F6 n+ r8 Y( [	• 1987 Toyota Tercel $ \|0 Z2 C8 k O3 T
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 9 X! n) J# @% X+ n T6 h7 z9 H# X	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 5 D4 c& O6 A, M2 Q, g
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5; Y3 q4 C ]; V% \|7 }! x0 W8 R	• 1987 Toyota Van LE; H3 m- v! Q( P, d
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE 3 n+ P2 l. M" C) [5 ?- i5 m p4 R	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel ( t0 X6 V" j3 S8 V B8 m
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE* q8 w* f9 S3 ?	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX; ], g5 [0 h4 T& d
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma ; ?- ^" U/ H9 A+ f9 ~	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 7 Q: Y& z' _5 L, s% n# M( v. i* \
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS ( C" p' P2 ~3 I0 f	• 1986 Toyota Van LE + q7 Q& d8 a# P7 W2 D6 h* Y: ~5 {; L) l
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE , b/ Q1 \|# Y- E& ?, _3 }	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 ?# ?/ n3 n: J" Y" M8 \! p" w3 e
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . s2 u* w: Z4 f5 z! c2 j	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel2 P+ p) J+ I" G* T F
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 ; d& x3 q0 P, O	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 3 C% e/ \) J# @+ K
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited ) l- m) a) V, A u) r# n" V- i	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 5 U4 G% r- K) F, N$ z5 d
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE # L, w9 V4 z8 l% l, n. v, U$ C. G	• 1985 Toyota Van & F3 {- ?- ^, b( j; b. s& ^$ ]
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE/ L/ `1 A& _" I5 \* D9 X* _$ I	• 1985 Toyota Van LE # s; j9 m( ~6 o8 j: `9 _( @9 _
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL% y4 I: W& f, o	• 1985 Toyota Van DX & w! g) d% M8 g/ c( j. M+ O
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE$ o2 k5 L8 K# t8 E; \|	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 Y+ E" g+ T1 M, H- T7 x$ W8 {7 H
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited4 V/ @, h' P# K6 ^" {; c	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ) U. Y9 B p7 y0 K8 ]2 k$ P( G3 L
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 0 T7 M. h! ~+ I+ X/ [	• 1984 Toyota Supra + ]6 P& {9 O* n4 t' k
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE % v4 Z" ?* ^ \3 _4 x	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX ! N4 ^1 s* y% M( V9 N3 M# c
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE & \|) g1 o2 s& z" b' ^	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser : D' N! }, Q4 ^8 _% ?4 s
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited 5 R- g/ x& t& f3 E7 o3 L	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 1 G( O4 F8 w* ]4 T3 ?# `
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS G: u% T# }7 u+ J; V6 g" s	• 1984 Toyota Van / f- q* g p* E4 h2 n
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE- g3 T5 t* {. P w8 }	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ! I B: M- t: k8 P( i
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 9 Q# P$ R6 y" v, u	• 1984 Toyota Van LE $ ?3 d( X/ b- t. a/ L
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE& s0 } j0 P5 o; b1 h/ h" s: H	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE ! L( f: H6 I1 t
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX4 Z1 z$ d. e! K	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5: j, E3 V$ e j& f3 G+ r# C2 O0 m
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5; w$ d2 k2 g! b2 L4 h	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX- v& s( x+ _# X- `7 Z2 s' Q( V
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE# m5 F5 i2 ^: ?3 N2 Z	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE ; k( E3 y% \# q+ L! G7 N
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE, k/ N# r9 e8 n6 D+ ]	• 1983 Toyota Supra # g8 L5 L5 s. l* H `
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma * d9 J2 }' ]( b' I- `$ t) _- p	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 q9 L% ?# [# m: @! c* E
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 5 I% o* ]! N. A1 o0 ?4 w	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX 6 `$ }% j! q3 Q9 O1 _/ b7 C2 i
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE: P1 K6 ^4 ~- b P/ d/ ^	• 1983 Toyota Cressida - P; ~8 `; o/ n8 P) S
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner l* ^0 Z) U# _	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT & {/ M; j. y3 ^% I7 _( T
• 1998 Toyota T-100 $ U4 c6 q: k" [, Q( @ T! F	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser & ^+ t* b ]. c# b1 T0 Y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited - A6 T( I" O9 ]% U( W$ U	• 1982 Toyota Cressida . v) b% W# S* d' i
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE / V1 F& S, M! N1 I: q4 g	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX : x' K X' K5 w7 y$ u' L
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 . r+ \5 Q, H/ w) u& a	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST ( y+ C3 }5 V% \|; U8 w
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5' x( @: i: d+ {8 ~8 I	• 1982 Toyota Tercel . z" D9 E! _' N" C- j
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX) q% L3 y* R9 r* \( X" c	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 0 z0 }4 z0 L: j% }; F5 ]8 w" m" Q
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ( ^+ y' c, [" N5 M8 b1 _1 u; r	• 1981 Toyota Tercel + b, i0 C/ w8 a1 D3 I/ G/ P2 H
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 c, h( w" [) ~, m- `	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5- c: u4 J' C0 d1 u
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 1 }, h: \|# T3 m$ f% x7 V	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 `; u0 {3 t# K% W- ^& H' I
• 1997 Toyota T-100 $ b1 C) ]$ S, a0 S	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX $ e! M7 L6 j" Z, p) [& ~
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited4 _, b! h! w3 @) R	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ! Y+ T$ @1 a; n2 E! B* O4 o* w
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE3 \" f& ~; c1 Y9 M. \|	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT& X2 [1 m1 o; g* H
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 Z7 I2 d+ j5 ^" q( S" S8 [	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 6 T% V1 N+ [/ X" E9 i7 e7 [1 \
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ( W: K! m9 i y) { x7 s	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser S+ M, J3 \|7 E% ]
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 1 A/ H, `& O% A5 R- z: ]	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe( x% S& V' D: r, q2 p
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL! U; O/ r, F- Y' K) S" y	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX: \|7 {. A& r5 w
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE 9 u9 K9 L6 \|' ?) i t	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST+ z4 z9 L9 I" d
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 8 v+ x1 D* h1 I$ O' y( y% {	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury* N/ }* L* _' s
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE ! u! v$ o: S7 ?, o. l$ q G	• 1980 Toyota Tercel ) k, t% f- i7 h' o$ y, S4 U( j
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE% g' C# P8 p( R9 a# g	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5. X( H3 L% s: \|0 q$ i
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 2 H" Z% n# Q' t	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe 3 M6 O* p# k( w6 C( M) g/ j1 \1 ^
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE 6 Y( B% H8 }2 T9 ^	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 8 D. }3 j! v$ @8 f
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5 z! o4 I) {1 C' l# Y! D8 T

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
4 q# X0 |) q# O7 V" s$ _. z$ [
, Q: d' o1 m: Y! U" I如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
% G @4 h& m c' v3 @# E/ v1 VToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE1 ?. s, N* N4 B: [1 p0 V
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
- C: e# j; A1 B* F- V' N* J: e&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 5 ~% l% B" L9 e2 N1 ^0 Y
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 1 K% f. m0 m5 ^' M5 s8 J8 u4 N. Q

$ ~7 Z5 I( \' g
/ q7 P% W0 z" L佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
4 W- o) e; R4 B% k& G: g( z" u! `3 q* E) o9 c+ G
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：( a9 U- p3 f, O G3 F
$ c+ M& _; f5 X' s4 }
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；; o6 R6 P9 L; R4 f
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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